https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151720967943585&set=pcb.10151841038173958&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151720968198585&set=pcb.10151841038173958&type=1&theater
These things are from Liegh there are blood line sabots for muzzle loading boy they look nasty.