200gr xpb and h110

[Jdr308]

Hi guys, new to the forum but have been enjoying the 450b for awhile now. I was looking for a new bullet for the upcoming deer season and wanted to try the 200gr barnes xpb.last year I used a 300gr xtp mag and it got the job done but I've always wanted to try the barnes. I have been reading the posts from Hoot and saw his data was mostly with "I'll gun" , well I can't find any ill gun but have plenty of h110 and was hoping someone had some data using it instead. I've been reloading for many years and I completely understand finding a starting load and working up, just wondered if someone had published data for this combo for me to start testing and find an accurate load. Thanks in advance for your help, it's greatly appreciated!

[Hoot]

See email response.

It's a little slow for 200 grainers. While you can load it under a 200gr XPB to achieve the same velocity as Lil Gun, it will blow 6% out of the muzzle of a 20" barrel unburned. Worse if you're using the shorter, carbine, 16" barrel.

Hoot

[Mort]

Save the 200's for when you get some Lil Gun and go with the 275's with your h110. Just a thought!

[pitted bore]

Jdr308-
Barnes makes a couple of .451 200-grain bullets, both tagged as "XPB". One is a hollowpoint intended for velocities of the 45 Colt, and the other a pointed hollow point intended for the 460 S&W. I'm not sure which you intend to use.
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In terms of loads, pressures, and MV, it may make little difference which you use.

For the pointy version, the new Lyman AR Reloading Handbook, page 95, shows H110 with a starting load of 41.0 grains, and a max load of 44.5 grains producing a MV of 2408 fps. (Let's hope the little electron-sized gremlins that live in the internet don't shuffle the values around.)

I've used this bullet for hunting with my 1903 Springfield rifle in 450B (see trophy forum), with a MV of about 2750 fps. I used Lil'Gun for this, and pressures are rather above the SAAMI max specified for the AR rifles.

Let us know how H110 works for you.
--Bob

[Jdr308]

Thanks guys, I am using barnes # 45115 intended for the 460 S&W not the one intended for the 45 colt. If the 270gr xpb is better suited for the H110, is this too heavy of a bullet for whitetails? Lil gun is nowhere to be found around here, what are the load ranges for the 270xpb and H110 and is this too much bullet for deer?

[Hoot]

Thanks guys, I am using barnes # 45115 intended for the 460 S&W not the one intended for the 45 colt. If the 270gr xpb is better suited for the H110, is this too heavy of a bullet for whitetails? Lil gun is nowhere to be found around here, what are the load ranges for the 270xpb and H110 and is this too much bullet for deer?

That all depends upon your definition of "too much". It's certainly not necessary for whitetails but it will kill them. I see guys woods hunting whitetails with 300 Win Mags for some reason. I personally helped a fellow sight in a Model 70 Featherweight in 7mm Magnum for woods hunting also. I shot it once. Got the feeling back in my arm the next day. Both are examples of too much rifle for whitetails, but particularly in a woodland scenario, which rarely offers a shot beyond 50 yards. For years before my first AR, I used a Browning 300 Win Mag BAR with a 3-9x44 on it for whitetails because my Dad gave it to me and it was all I had. Being a reloader, I loaded it down to .30-06. Put a lot of meat in the freezer and a pile of antlers in my garage. Still have it, but being afflicted with AR mania, I now use either my 450b for brush conditions or my 6.5 Grendel for longer distances. I have an upper in 7.62x40WT, which performance-wise is a semi-auto 30-30. Would like to give it an at bat if I ever get back out deer hunting. All vacations are cancelled this year at work, due to a big project that is way behind schedule, so I doubt I'll get out again. Can't justify getting up at 2 AM to drive 3 hours to where I hunt Saturday morning and coming back Sunday afternoon. Its supposed to be relaxing and fun, not a forced march.

I would use 2400 before H110 for 200 grainers, if you can find some of that. This is a long shot, but VV N110 is faster than H110. I have a partial bottle left and did shoot some 200 grainers with it. All this being said, H110 will work with 200 grainers and if it means using it or nothing at all, by all means give it a go.

Hoot
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